美國學者敏辛遭“非法拘押”,妻子營救:我們等你回家
美國之音採訪了被中國政府非法拘押的美國學者敏辛的妻子。她談到了敏辛赴華被扣的經過、美國國務院將其認定為“被錯誤拘押”的進展,以及她帶著女兒在華盛頓國會聽證會上的呼籲,表達了全家盼望他早日平安回家的願望。
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Welcome to VOA, Sylvia. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us. I know you make all the way from Chiang Mai, right? So could you please tell us what you have done and what you plan to do to help Mingxin during your stay in D.C.? Well, my main job is to advocate for his behalf. So I've done a congressional hearing yesterday and then I will just be doing more interviews and getting his case, you know, more public and until I leave.
So, yesterday, on the congressional hearing, you made the direct plea to President Trump. If you ever got a chance to talk to him, what would you say to him? I just want to say thank you for the wrongful determination so far, but unfortunately, the work is not done until my husband is at home,所以我希望他能處理他在最後面的設計等他回家。
我們知道,the State Department just formally designated 明星是在中國的決定. 你第一次回當你聽到新聞的新聞. I've known from the beginning that it was wrongfully detained. He's not doing anything that he's not supposed to. He's a researcher, he is an academic. He went to China because he was invited to go. He had proper visas, everything is above board. So I already knew it was wrongfully detained, for the U.S. government to recognize that and to have that formal determination that's really helpful for me and my daughter.
at the end of August I did an interview with Min Xin's brother Aung Mao Xin and he told me that on August 12th the U.S. officers got a chance to visit Min Xin and talk to him briefly for like 15 minutes. So since then is there any like new developments on his case? The counselors have a next visit on September 15th, so that's going to be the 4th visit. And he is in good spirits, he is worried about us, me and my daughter, and he is trying to exercise, he's trying to keep healthy, and he can't wait to come home.
I heard he is like detained by himself. Aung Mao Xin told me that he's very strong. So what's your biggest concern for him? Physical health. I just want him to come home strong and not have any health issues.
Okay, so let's talk about some June 3rd situation. So he left for airport. Did you take him to the airport? I did not. He went himself. 你跟他說 anything to him or did he say anything to you before? That was he concerned about the trip? It was a very routine trip, you know, he was invited everywhere, you know, he goes on these trips all the time. I don't even know that I came home to say goodbye to him. I think I just left with my daughter to drop her off at school. I just went on with my day, you know, so there was nothing significant or that stood out about this trip.
So when he landed he sent you and also texted his co-worker. Yes, and also yeah. And so you think everything is okay, right? Yeah. And when did you realize that he went missing? 那晚他不在滿了六個小時, 他的公司也叫我, 他們說你聽到他? 我們兩個人聽到, 我們在車裡, 在車裡的車裡, 你認為我們可以認為去看他那裡, 也認為他也認為他聯絡, 它已經是9月3日. 所以我們知道他不在乘客, 我們知道他已經在乘客的旅程了, 所以我們知道事情是錯的.
然後6月4日, 我把我的女兒送在學校, 其實我會在學校的學習, and I called the U.S. consulate in Chiang Mai and in Guangzhou. There was no formal notification yet at that time, but the formal notification came on June 5th.
During this three months it must be very hard on you and on your daughter. Is there any like particular moment like you feel like very difficult, but you still have to hang on and still have to fight? I think the tide has turned. I think my focus kind of shifted on, okay, it could be a long term, and what are we going to do, and what am I going to do? I think I'm doing here is what I need to do. I need to speak on his behalf, I need to advocate for him, and until he comes home.
所以可不可以跟我們說說明星的工作? 因為中國政府拘捕他在拘捕, 對你合作嗎? 沒有, 他是一個研究, 他是一個研究, 他的研究, 他的研究研究, 是關於研究的資料, 研考研究, 它是全部公開的. 他們放在網站上的網站, and it's accessible publicly by anybody, so he's not doing anything that is not supposed to, there's nothing behind the scene for him, it's very transparent. Did he talk to you about his work?
only husband and wife work, I mean, what we would talk about, what meetings he did, but nothing in detail. 昨天我做了一天的研究和 Professor Andrew Nathan, 他是一位大學的研究科學, 他決定了一篇研究, 成為 Scholars-at-Risk, 邀請中國政府阻止民心。我跟他說他說, 我們不知道為什麼中國政府阻止民心。One theory is that they did so at the request of the Myanmar government. Because Mian camino has been as effective critics of that regime. Do you think that wuyet be the reason? I am not the right person for that, I don't know anything about politics or policies, or what each government, you know, the Burmese government's relationship with the Chinese government, I don't know anything about that, I'm a stay-at-home mom, 所以不會知道那些問題。明星的弟弟說明星很喜歡所有的機會去討論和中國的朋友, 因為他相信更多他們談論這件事, 更多他們能解決這件事。你知不知道這件事嗎, 他的工作, 有關關於 Burma的問題, 他在14年的時候,他在14年他在14年他在14年他在14年他在15年他在20年他在14年, 他的興趣在中國是因為他在中國是一個強烈鑊的朋友, 他是在馬上的興趣, 他是在的興趣, 所以他在西方商量去中國,就要講和其他學家, 他在一些宴會上次訪, 因為他相信他在到這個過程中, 他相信這就是我們的走向, 他在2018年他有10年曆史上的歷史上, 2018年,2017年,something like that, OK, and it's a 10年曆史上的歷史上, Yes.
How many times have he visited China since then? I know he went right after he got the visa, so maybe like 2017, 2018, and then after that, because of COVID, maybe he hasn't gone in a while, but he went uh in october of 2025 to shanghai that was the last time before this one and so several times yeah, but every time it's like he came back safely right, yes. So you don't really think about like this trip, not at all, not at all, so you don't uh you don't really you didn't really concerned like every time when he goes to china, oh no, he's a very safe person, you know, so I trust他在家裡面的認識, 我相信他在家裡面做了所有的事, 做了所有的事, 確實他在家裡面做了安全, 他在家裡面做了安全, 所以我沒有想到他, 他在家裡面做了一些事情, 所以我們沒有想到他, 他在家裡面做了很危險的事情, 所以你沒有說到他, 他在3月份上.
How do you talk to him, to your daughter? I gave her all the facts. She's 14 so she's not a little kid anymore, so I can share like some of the facts with her, and she knows what's what's going on, and she's here in DC with me, and she was at the hearing yesterday. Yeah, I saw you post the card on the museum's birthday September 9th, I know every year you will celebrate the birthday together right and this year is like celebration without him so how did you celebrate for him this year? I went to the monastery earlier that day because we are Buddhists and we went to the monastery offering some food on his behalf. I actually get to go home to pack because I was flying out that day, I flew out that evening actually to come here so i picked her i picked up my daughter from school, we had a little cupcake for him and she ate it and then we we went to the airport. Okay, that's great, yeah, i saw the picture of the cupcake, yeah, so I learned from a report back in the 2009 and saying that sue's name is from um angsen shuchi is that correct, yeah, she's named她在她的工作室, 她曾經在一起工作室很深刻1988年, 她曾經在高中學生, 她曾經在一起工作室, 她曾經在一起工作室, 她知道她被捕捉了中國政府, 我不確定她知道, 我沒有接觸她.
I would like to talk about some of your personal story, I know that you met Missy when he was in Berkeley, Could you please share with us how you get to know each other and fell into love and eventually got married? I met him through a mutual friend of my mom, and he was actually telling me a story or telling us the story about um behind the scenes he was a journalist at erwoody at that time erwoody magazine and he was doing a um interview for one of his stories and i think that really fascinated me, uh but what what kind of the story is that do you你還記得嗎? 是的, 它是他的故事, 上人附近的運動, 從 Burma到泰國的臺灣, 他只是告訴我他在做的研究和研究研究研究研究, 所以, 什麼是他人的性格你最多的, 他會厲害我說這個, 但我認為他非常有趣。I think that's what attracted me to him the most he can you know he he had I guess a hard life so far you know with with fleeing Burma but throughout all of his life he kept his humor, and I think that's what's attractive for me. So we know that he made a history in UC Berkeley's他認識的普遍的學習 login法, 就是停止學習課, 我認識了,他說他必須找到其他語語的語言, 哦,我的,你懂,所以從那裡,到那裡,我認識了,我認識了,我認識了,他認識了,所以他self-studied英語是的。
如何是 Sue做的?是她好嗎?啊, yes. I, you know, overall she's okay, I'm trying to keep her life as normal as possible, and she has to leave her school to come on this trip with me, you know, and so she's she's missing that over there, she has her band is supposed to perform in early October, so she wants to practice, you know, her她的舞臺是一般的女孩。所以我們去找她的設計, 但是她是一般的14年女孩。對於這三個月的過程, 你覺得你的生活是有什麼? 當然,我們是三個家人。和我們的狼是四個家人。所以當一個人離開, It is very noticeable, right, and he is the dedicated talker of the family, you know. So, he comes home and he's you know telling me about his day, telling me what's going while going on, you know. So, all of that is very quiet these days. So, yes, of course, it is very noticeable. So, if you ever haven't talked to him for three months, so, what would you most like to tell him now. 我們愛他,我們等待他在家。謝謝你來到V A來聊天謝謝你來, 謝謝你謝謝, 謝謝。