The FBI Begins a Comprehensive, Full-Scale Investigation of Chinese Communist Party Spies in the United States
Hu Liren revealed on the program that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has recently begun a systematic and intensive investigation into Chinese communist spies and intelligence personnel in the United States. Many agents and false pro-democracy figures lurking within the anti-communist circles are under investigation. The program also recalled an earlier case in which a Chinese couple was arrested at Los Angeles Airport for allegedly stealing and transporting US military classified disks, and shared personal experiences regarding Chen Shuguang, a petitioner who went to the US to defend his rights after suffering judicial injustice, only to be suppressed by some individuals within the same circle, emphasizing the need to uphold justice and kindness.
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Hello, dear viewers and friends! I am here to report some good news to everyone! Over the past couple of days, I have received messages from many friends saying that the United States—the Federal Bureau of Investigation—has started investigating the spies in the US, the Chinese communist spies here. This time, I believe it is systematic. I have already received some news here that some friends within our circle have received calls from US government agents to investigate this matter.
This matter is very important! Usually, everyone talks about this issue, about how many there are. Including within our circle, the anti-communist circle, there are many people mixed in, mixed with all sorts of agents from the Communist Party, including intelligence personnel, deep-water agents, and special operatives. These people are all lurking, using the so-called anti-communist forces, using this so-called anti-communism. After arriving in the United States, some agents even came to the US with their entire families.
Using their own family members as a cover, they packaged themselves in China as persecuted individuals and then arrived in the United States. Upon arriving in the United States, these people—these people have a characteristic, a characteristic of frequently contacting US government officials, contacting them. Well, the US is not stupid; the US government, including the CIA and the current US immigration authorities,
This is my latest news! Many of those currently in the US, who fled to the US within the last decade, are so-called prominent figures in the anti-communist circle. I am talking about these prominent figures; I won't mention names, it's too sensitive, I won't mention them. These prominent figures, we thought they had already obtained green cards, or even green cards for their whole family, but in fact, they haven't obtained green cards at all.
Can you imagine? Hey, these people—these people, in fact, the US immigration authorities have always been suspicious, always been suspicious. Why? Normally speaking, these people are high-profile anti-communists in China, and everyone in this circle protects you.
What are these people? These people are mostly just helpers, and Chinese communist agents are mixed among them. Some people come to the US with a mission, with a mission, these people. Look at the matter of Zhao Guangjun that I exposed some time ago; actually, many of the people supporting Zhao Guangjun are these people, all of them. Just think, is that normal? Is that normal? You say a person, you say the victim has already identified him as...
He has been identified, already. Think about it, the U.S. CIA and FBI have already intervened in this case, and these people still want to pull Zhao Guangjun out, you see, they want to drag him out. You think about it, these people are all in the same gang. I tell you, they are all in the same gang. Ah, this time, I went to Washington, and it was very rewarding, very rewarding, very rewarding, it allowed me to understand some things I didn't understand before, it allowed me to understand. You think, how terrifying is the U.S. now? These people, these people, are constantly sending these, these kinds of violent elements to the U.S.
Some people, you look at them, wow, they go to the U.S. Congress, every time they go to a meeting, they want these, you look at me, you see if there is this kind of thing? You look at me, when I came to the U.S. in 2019, I got to know many U.S. politicians in Washington, right? I don't get involved, I don't go wading into these muddy waters. If you follow my, if you say according to my public relations ability, then the U.S. Congress, the U.S. State Department, absolutely, if I wanted to deal with these people, there would be no problem at all, right? Why don't I go? Why don't I go? I want to return to my own life.
Right? I want to do my own things. Some people, they are very keen on doing this, very keen on doing these things, ah! What are they doing it for? For their green cards. These people, until now, haven't even gotten their green cards, can you imagine? So, why? You look at these people, you came to the U.S. around the same time as me, some even entered the U.S. earlier than me.
After arriving in the U.S., for so many years, for so many years, oh, you look at it, it seems very glorious! Wow, what kind of anti-CCP things were they doing in China before? What kind of democratic movement promotion things were they doing? Behind the scenes, their behind the scenes, actually, the U.S. government knows a lot. I have always said, the U.S. CIA is not stupid, the U.S. intelligence agencies are absolutely not stupid. The U.S. intelligence agencies definitely have many people inside the CCP, these people are intervening, everyone is infiltrating each other. You all shouldn't think that only the CCP is infiltrating the U.S., the U.S.
intelligence agencies can just as well infiltrate the CCP! This is all mutual, right? You have people who come to my place, I can still monitor you. You look, you look at these people in the democracy movement a while ago, this Wang Shujun who was mixed in, right? This Tang Yuanjun and people like him, you see, it's all the U.S. intelligence agencies at work, playing a role! They can pinpoint, can identify, identify, identify, identify that this person is a CCP person, ah, and then carry out an arrest.
So, there will be more, you look, you look, in a while, in this circle, there will be more people arrested, there will be more people arrested. And, according to the information I have received now, the U.S. FBI has already intervened and is investigating their true backgrounds, their true backgrounds. Hmm, that's one thing. Second, this time, since Xi Jinping came to the U.S., you look at many of these people from the Federation of Returned Overseas Chinese.
They are blatantly acting as agents for the CCP, unregistered agents, right? These people, under the name of the Federation of Returned Overseas Chinese, you see after Xi Jinping came, these people had conflicts with these real anti-CCP, anti-CCP individuals. So these people are all from New York, including one who is notorious, called Chen Shanzhuang, Fujian, is a Fujianese, ah.
What kind of leader of a Federation of Returned Overseas Chinese is he, ah, specifically attending these CPPCC meetings of the United Front Work Department? How come in Beijing, many people have already put his photos on the internet? The U.S. is not doing nothing now, it is constantly collecting their evidence, after getting the evidence, then it will take action. After China-U.S. relations reach a certain stage, after reaching a certain stage.
They will immediately carry out arrests. So after the arrests, these people, if they originally had, for example, obtained green cards under a legitimate name, or some other name, then the green card might be cancelled. If they have already become U.S. citizens, then the U.S., as a, will investigate how he obtained U.S. citizenship, right? Then he, in the whole trial process, what false statements, what materials he provided, these materials will all be dug up. After being dug up, then this becomes a case of perjury, and by then, the U.S. citizenship will be cancelled. The U.S. has this kind of secret.
You are a spy or a secret agent of an opposing side, right? Such an intelligence officer, then the U.S. will, there is a video these two days, very popular on the internet, everyone has seen it, it's from 2005, it's an old video, it just happens that a couple, a Chinese couple, at Los Angeles airport holding this.
They brought a lot of information from the US military. This information was just on a single disk, which they put in their own bag, and that bag had already gone through security. During the security check process, the FBI had actually already targeted people like this for a long time, targeted them long ago. So, after this man and this woman checked their luggage and were about to go through security, probably.
They were suddenly arrested, suddenly arrested, there is video of it! They were suddenly arrested, and after they were arrested, well, later it went to trial. The US government had actually targeted them long ago; it was that the man's, that male protagonist's older brother was working in the US military doing these jobs, connected to the US military and doing this work. So he was like an ant moving its house, continuously taking all kinds of US military classified intelligence and bringing it home. After bringing it home, he stored it on a disk. Then his younger brother, acting as an informant and a transporter, a transporter who frequently traveled back and forth to China.
Got these materials and handed them over to his younger brother. Whenever his younger brother's family went back, he would often take them back. Under these circumstances, later on, after his younger brother was arrested, when they looked at this disk, both human witnesses and physical evidence were right there. In the end, it seemed he was sentenced to twenty-four years, or something like that. Ah, you see, cases like this, when cases like this are brought up, it proves that the US government is now vigorously arresting such people.
These people, everyone says, once a person does evil, especially in the United States, especially the United States today—today's US technology is very advanced, you leave a trace everywhere you go. You leave a trace when you go online, you leave a trace when you send an email, ah, you leave a trace when you copy and save to a disk, and you cannot erase these traces. I myself used to work in the internet and tech industry, ah, you simply don't—you think it's deleted, but in the backend you can't delete it at all; backend data cannot be deleted. Especially nowadays with cloud computing and these cloud-based storage things, you simply cannot delete it.
There are some database backups. In the US, just think, in the US many, for example, old computer systems, as long as this computer system—even if this computer system is completely damaged, they have ways to help you repair it, they have ways to help you repair things and extract this data. Suppose you drop a packet on the internet, or send an email, you cannot delete these emails at all. Therefore, under these circumstances, it is very easy for the US to catch these people, very easy, ah.
So the US government today, look at the US, it is different from China. You see, we Chinese people often understand it, it is often like this: for example, the top leader says a word, well, the people below just follow it and do it. For instance, if Xi Jinping says a word, or the Central Committee has some instruction, then you just follow it and do it. The US is not like that, the US is not like that; various departments in the US have their own independent operations.
Of power, ah, what does the US president seemingly do? Hey, the people below might be different. For example, like the US Department of War, right? And the US president, sometimes you say the US president does things, many things the Department of War does are completely opposite to what he does. Many things are just on the surface. What looks like diplomacy—diplomacy itself is just some superficial articles, many involve superficial articles. In reality, all departments of the US government are operating.
The Department of Science and Technology, the Department of Justice, whatever, they are all operating, including US courts convicting the CCP, right? They will, they have independent systems; they are not subject to these other highest—in China, once the supreme instruction comes down, everyone below must listen to it. The US is not like that! Ah, you see, on one side Xi Jinping walks, this—gives you the red carpet, does this, gives you this, uh, gives you this state banquet treatment, the highest treatment, while on the other side they figure out how to investigate you and deal with you. The moment Xi Jinping leaves, you see the Senate's Falun Gong bill, right, that bill on forced organ harvesting comes right out.
This, so, so when we are in the US, we must understand that the US and China are completely different. Do not use Chinese thinking, this kind of habitual thinking, to think about or apply to the operation of this country called the US; it is completely different, completely different. So, one is working quietly, and the other is working quietly. In the past two days I went to Washington, and in total I spent about six days there, a total of six days, and the harvest was huge, the harvest was huge. Of course, I also went to see some old friends, and went to see some, some.
Old friends, let me show you a photo, it's this one. Before, ah, I once mentioned, I, and.
I specifically went to visit a friend, the one who was beaten by those young thugs last time, his name is Chen Shuguang. Let me show everyone. I took a photo at the entrance of the place where we used to live, where he still lives, under a persimmon tree. Chen Shuguang is a very good person, and I went to see him specifically.
He is very good, just like that. You see, I have only known him for two years, just two years, but our relationship is excellent, truly excellent. He is very grateful to me, and actually, I am very grateful to him too. I feel that among people, especially in the Chinese community, it is not easy to meet good people. It is not easy to find someone you can get along with, someone with whom you can share your inner thoughts.
It is very rare, very rare. Among the people I have met in the United States, apart from some friends from Falun Gong with whom we can interact without barriers, there are some others in the democracy movement, of course, there are some. I am a person who values relationships deeply. You see, traveling such a long distance to go and see him, it was the right thing to do, it was the right thing to do. He is a very, very good person, Chen Shuguang. Let me tell everyone about Chen Shuguang's situation.
He is from the 80s and 90s generation, a few years older than me. In the 80s and 90s, he was in Guangzhou, just like a businessman, and he was doing very well. He had about six siblings, and he was the youngest, with one older brother and about four older sisters, five in total. His family members are all Guangzhou locals, and they are all Buddhists; they are very, should I say, very traditional. He is the same, a very traditional person.
His brother is much older than him. Being the youngest brother, he was showered with love. In that era, parents, being Chinese parents, it was not easy to raise six children and have them survive. It was not easy to survive. Under the Communist Party at that time, you know, in the Mao era, it was not easy to survive. At that time, his siblings took great care of him; they would give many things to their younger brother, so he had a very good relationship with his family. After he made money in the 90s, he even helped his brothers and sisters buy houses. He had money at the time, right? He was a very, should I say, a very successful businessman in the 90s. He had a sister in Hong Kong and several sisters in Guangzhou. He would provide money to support his brothers and sisters; it was a very united family. Usually, when I am with him, he is often on the phone with his sisters and brothers.
Because he had money at the time, a real estate company needed capital. In the 90s, they needed funds to develop. Chen Shuguang had money then, and in the 90s—maybe around 20 years ago—he took out 6 million RMB. That was not easy; it was not easy to take out 6 million RMB at that time. He lent the 6 million RMB to the other party, and they had agreed on the interest and everything; it was a friendship-based relationship with a real estate company. Later, that real estate company grew big, and they wouldn't give him the money back.
Look at that, how evil can they be? Because they had a very good relationship with the judiciary, with the court. The courts in Guangdong, the judiciary there is rotten to the core, actually. Chen Shuguang is a decent person, so he sued them. He won the lawsuit, and the other party was ordered to compensate him. Moreover, the local courts in Guangzhou had already initiated enforcement.
But once they got the money, they wouldn't give it to him, making excuses with all sorts of reasons. This is something ordinary people cannot imagine. If you tell ordinary people, they cannot comprehend it; they think it's impossible. The court has already enforced it, so why isn't the money coming? But it is indeed like that; they won't give it to him. Why? Because the judges in these courts wanted to swallow this money. They eat the defendant, they eat the plaintiff, they eat the plaintiff and then the defendant; that is how it is. The Chinese judiciary is dark to this extent.
So they just kept not giving it to him, and his mood plummeted. Think about it, he gave his principal to others, just wanting to get some interest back, thinking there was a gap in time, but he didn't expect that he wouldn't get it back. This is very dark. Later, he kept acting like a petitioner, reporting to the government, trying to get this money back, but the Guangzhou government never gave it to him.
What if they never gave it to him? Later, because his wife's sister was an immigrant in the United States, they thought, forget it, let's all immigrate to the United States. So, he was a formal family-sponsored immigrant. His wife's sister's family was in the U.S., and it took about a dozen years of waiting before they came to the U.S. as immigrants. After arriving in the U.S., he followed the normal process and got a green card; he has always held a green card, an immigrant green card.
Later, because of this matter, he said he wanted to come to Washington. So, he came to Washington. After arriving in Washington, he thought he could get this money through the embassy. He met someone.
This person, Chen Shuguang, had faith and was very determined. Just think, he set up a tent in front of the embassy and lived there for a year and a half. Qin Gang was very sympathetic to him at the time; he was very sympathetic. The hearts of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) officials are usually very hard, so I think Qin Gang—I sometimes chat with him about Qin Gang, and he also often talks to me about Qin Gang. You see, within the CCP, I don't know what kind of person Qin Gang is, but at the very least, Qin Gang helped this Chen Shuguang.
Qin Gang looked at him at the time and thought, "Oh, such a person, look at him, he is an honest person." He used to be a business owner, right? A southerner who did business, and he looked quite refined. A person like this, living in that place, and his age was nearly sixty. He was nearly sixty a few years ago, and now he is over sixty. Qin Gang was the Chinese Ambassador to the United States at the time, and later he went to Beijing to become the Minister of Foreign Affairs. Qin Gang called the then-Secretary of the Guangdong Provincial Party Committee—I forget his name, maybe Wu Chunhua or someone else.
He demanded that the Provincial Party Secretary look into Chen Shuguang's case and handle it. He said, "First, the international image is bad, he's camped out there every day; second, you go and check if he was truly wronged." Upon investigation, he was indeed wronged, and they should have given it to him long ago. The Guangdong Provincial Court had executed about 10 million-plus, 11 million, which included money that had already been executed long ago. It was already in Guangzhou, in a district court in Guangzhou, Guangdong Province. How many years had that money been sitting there? They had already given him 6 million.
There was still money they wouldn't give him. So Chen Shuguang thought, "I've been a petitioner for so many years, all my business assets were worth 6 million back in the 90s, right? You've only given me 6 million so far." So Chen Shuguang kept on being a petitioner. At that time, among the petitioner circle, there were some people who lived together, and the wickedness of some Chinese people is truly bottomless. These people, after seeing Chen Shuguang get the money, were green with envy. I tell you, actually, when someone gets money, people should be happy for them, right? Shouldn't everyone be happy for them? Wow, you got the money, you got part of it, that's good, be happy for them. At the very least, his life is now guaranteed.
These people here were jealous, and because they were jealous, they treated him like a thorn in their side. That's just how it was. They even wanted to drive him away, saying, "Chen Shuguang, you've already received money, why are you still protesting here? If you do that, they won't give us money in the future." You think about it, the logic is sound, but the problem is, the money he received was only the principal. How much money would his losses over so many years amount to? You have to think about this point. This is what those petitioners told me when I was there, meaning Chen Shuguang already got the money, so why is he still doing this? That's how it was. Later, the beating incidents happened.
Because of the beating incidents, I couldn't stand it anymore. I can't stand it; I'm someone who can't tolerate sand in my eyes. I couldn't stand it, so I spoke out. Later, I brought this matter to light, and I offended so many people, right? These people—I can tell the whole story, I can say it on my program, right?
Right? I am open and aboveboard, so later I had a very good relationship with Chen Shuguang. When I lived with Chen Shuguang later, I used to stay in hotels. I thought, sometimes I would occasionally drive to Washington to protest there for a week, because my home is in Florida, and I have to make a living and have other things to do. So I would drive there for a week, sometimes protest there for a week or two, stay in a hotel, and then drive back. Later, after some time, I ended up accompanying Chen Shuguang.
I accompanied him for almost a year, going back and forth for about a year's time. Later I thought, oh, this cannot solve the problem either. Later the Chinese Communist Party would not solve it for you either, so then I came back. Upon coming back, starting in July of last year, I began doing independent media. Doing independent media, I thought about using another form to resist. What could I do? It had to be this way. Of course, I usually also work in this media, also help some other media, as everyone has seen. In the past, I was at Radio Free Asia, at The Epoch Times, right? Often doing programs at New Tang Dynasty Television, Sound of Hope, so.
Actually, us southerners are not very good at speaking, and I am not very good at appearing on camera either; I don't really like showing my face. But the Communist Party forced me, so what could I do? I tell everyone like this: I said I am not suited to talk about this stuff. When I was originally in China, you see, I managed enterprises, just managing enterprises, giving lectures inside the enterprise, holding meetings inside the enterprise, ah, with tens of employees below, one or two hundred employees, so when holding a general meeting, I would go up and talk and talk and talk, right? And then because.
The work I did was relatively special, doing industrial economic research. Then later, many university people and government people invited me to go give lectures. I bit the bullet and went to give lectures for almost three years. Those three years happened to give me time to lecture, which laid the foundation for my lecturing. Oh, I thought, and then.
Well, after I arrived in the United States, they—actually, I just wanted to expose the CCP, right? To expose the CCP. I am not like many of these northern media people, who are very good at speaking, right? Some of them are even professionals; like Li Mengyang, he is completely professional, coming from a background of professional announcers, performing very well. Of course, because when I was young, I still spent time in my father's work unit, and my father's work unit was.
It was independent media, right? It was media, right? Because, because when I was very young, I went into the studio to watch them broadcast. I said I wouldn't speak, I would just watch you broadcast. Uh, they were broadcasting inside, and at that time, I also got familiar with some of this, familiar with some announcers and these things, and also knew what kind of media, what kind of radio station this was, what it was really like, just like that. So now, driven to Liangshan, now I do independent media, doing independent media, ah, doing news commentary, right?
Ah, so let me tell you about Chen Shuguang. What kind of person is Chen Shuguang? I will tell you what kind of person Chen Shuguang is, and I will just tell you one thing. That is something I genuinely felt very deeply, very deeply. This person, after he was beaten, after being assaulted, after being assaulted, he still just hoped that this matter would not go any further, that this matter would not go any further.
He, he is a Buddhist. Think about it, when I was with him, in the summer, there were a few mosquitoes buzzing in the room. I was about to swat the mosquito, and he told me: "Ah, Hu Liren, don't swat that mosquito, I'll handle it." He took a plastic bag and covered the mosquito. He said: "We cannot kill living things, he cannot." He is almost always vegetarian, generally eats vegetarian, and cannot kill living things. Then after covering that mosquito with the bag, he put it outside. Just think about it, a person like this, he has none—this person has no violent tendencies whatsoever, has no violent tendencies whatsoever, yet was innocently beaten, beaten until he suffered a concussion, beaten until he suffered a concussion.
He, in that room, slept for three full days. Oh, how pitiful! You saw it, his face looked like a 60-year-old man. You saw it, at that time he was 60 years old, it seems now he is 62, 60. His head, face, and eyes were all purple, your head was all blue. When you touched his head, his head was full of bumps, full of bumps, too terrifying.
Really, so, you see, it was because of this. Later I was with him, and the two of us became roommates. I stopped staying at the hotel and became roommates. After spending the whole year interacting with him like this, I found out, ah, this person is too good, truly. So people, a person must have a true belief; having a true belief is completely different. Every day he chants Buddhist scriptures, every day, ah, but of course I am a Christian, ah, I do not chant scriptures, but I respect his faith, respect his faith. Sometimes he would tell me, he said, is it okay for me to chant scriptures? I said it doesn't matter, you do you, right? We are inclusive of everything. The United States as a country is itself like this, right?
Ah! Do not attack any other beliefs, those normal beliefs of people, you must not attack people, it's not like doing bad things, he is doing good deeds, letting you do them, right? Mhm, alright, having said so much, ah, it has reached half an hour again, it has reached half an hour, ah! Alright, ah, everyone watch closely, ah!
You see, in this circle, as soon as there is any sign of movement, I know about it immediately. I have many friends who often call me. If I were to name the people who often chat with me, everyone would know them. In this circle, they are absolutely well-known. They like my personality. My personality is a bit like a Southerner's—you see, my face looks a bit like a Southerner's—but my character is a bit like a Northerner's. I have never been afraid of tyranny since I was a child. If you want to be tough with me, I will stand my ground against you to the end. I have been like this since I was a child, always like this. Hmm.
Ah, I think a person should be like this: one must uphold one's own justice, right? Coming to the United States, that is exactly what I have done. Some people ask me, "You are a great hero, how did you do it?" I say I am not a great hero. What am I? I am just reacting like a normal person. I think what I did is what all normal people should do, right? Because in this country, the vast majority of people are not normal. Just like the simplest example: if an elderly person falls, you help them up, right? This is the most basic human reaction. If this country has lost that, then the country is gone, right?
It is like a good, kind person being bullied by a villain; you must definitely stand by the kind person's side, and you must condemn the villain. If you don't even condemn the villain, but instead protect the villain and try to whitewash them, then you are completely abnormal, right? Alright, I'll stop here for today. I'm very happy, and thank you all for watching. See you in the next topic! Whenever there is any new news in the circle, I will go live to share it with you all.