Exclusive: Ma Yongtian Plans to Intercept Xi Jinping's Motorcade Again Today

In this video, we interviewed petitioner Ms. Ma Yongtian, who stated that she began petitioning in 2001 after her factory was seized and her land was forcibly demolished. It has now been 26 years. Although she won her lawsuit in 2001, the issue remains unresolved. Instead, her son and husband have had their personal freedom restricted by the Changchun Public Security Bureau on charges of "illegal border crossing" and have been released on bail twice. Ms. Ma plans to intercept Xi Jinping's motorcade this time, with her primary demand being the release of her son and husband; she is willing to postpone discussions regarding financial compensation. Reflecting on the eras of three different CCP General Secretaries, she believes that the current younger generation in China finds the government's coercive measures unbearable, which represents a new hope. She noted that although she has intercepted Xi Jinping's motorcade twice before, she cannot disclose the specific details of today's action plan, as she might be flagged as an "unsafe factor" and monitored.

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Hello everyone, Yaoyao Jiang is live. Today we are in D.C., and I am particularly honored to meet Ms. Ma. She began her petitioning journey over twenty years ago, and she has petitioned all the way from China to the United States. Uh, today, you are going to petition again, right? Yes. Uh, what kind of plan do you have for today? Can you disclose it to us in advance? Because I know that usually this is a secret, top secret. It's okay, I, I, I don't have secrets. You don't have secrets? Well, this afternoon, President Xi is visiting the United States again. Our family's case has not been resolved for twenty-six years, and my son and husband are now being held under house arrest by the Changchun Public Security Bureau. I am here this time mainly with one demand for President Xi: release my son and husband. Financial issues can be discussed later. Do you have any activities planned for today? Uh, today, just like in previous years, since President Xi is visiting the U.S., I have to cry out for justice; I have to intercept the "sedan chair." Uh, why? This time, it's because Jilin Province has been holding my son and husband since 2017, nearly ten years now. For twenty-six years, they haven't given me a single cent, and now they are keeping them under house arrest. My son tries to participate in social activities, including working to earn a living, but they won't even allow that. My younger son is at home with his father. I have two children, um.

...and if I continue such activities, it's considered petitioning. Then, from petitioning in China to petitioning in the U.S., how many years has it been in total? Twenty-six years. Twenty-six years. From 2001 until now—my factory was seized in 2001, and I won the lawsuit in 2002; there is a court verdict. In 2003, an internal notice from the Changchun Municipal Government stated that the seizure of my property was illegal and wrong. It has been twenty-six years until this year; not only have you not given me the money, but now you have also taken my family—my son and my husband—as hostages, confining them to a specific area. Can they not come out? They cannot. In 2017, I completed their immigration procedures for the U.S.; all their paperwork was ready, and they just needed to buy plane tickets to come to the U.S. Then, our Chengdu Public Security Bureau stepped in and wouldn't let them leave. They confiscated their passports and all the documents related to their U.S. immigration, and then they charged the two of them with something like 'attempting to cross the border illegally.' We didn't do that, but they were placed under 'bail pending trial.' This has happened twice over these years—once in 2023 and once in 2017. The 2023 incident was even more ridiculous; they were just staying at home. My son went to Guangzhou to look for work, and they went there and said, 'No, you have to come back. If you don't come back, we will take compulsory measures.' After returning, he went to the Nanling Police Station and was immediately placed under 'bail pending trial.' My husband was just lying at home sleeping, and they made him go to the police station, where he was also placed under 'bail pending trial.' 'Bail pending trial' means they are criminal suspects and can be taken into custody and thrown into jail at any time. Yet, the charge remains unchanged: that the two of you are trying to cross the border illegally. We are now 'attempting to cross the border illegally' just by sleeping at home.

So, what is the purpose of your petitioning now? Is it to get your husband and son their freedom back, or is it still to petition regarding that case from over twenty years ago? The one you mentioned, uh, about the land being forcibly demolished and so on. Well, the Changzhi Public Security Bureau talked to me a couple of days ago, and my ultimate goal is just the money; uh, it's okay whenever they pay it. Right now, I just want the two people. Oh. Your priority has changed, your priority has shifted; now you can even put the money on hold. I hope your two relatives can come to the U.S. to reunite with you soon. Yes, oh, I understand.

Uh, you have been petitioning for such a long time now; can you tell me how many CCP General Secretaries you have experienced? In your observation, has the wave of protest been getting louder with each term, or is the voice of the democracy movement not as strong as it used to be? I have experienced three terms: Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao, and Xi Jinping. Yes, you are very qualified to speak on this. Regarding the current democracy movement, including the anti-CCP forces overseas, what do you think the current change is? I think the current change is that some young people in China are rising up. These kids, regarding the government and the country's mandatory measures, I think they find it very hard to endure. If there are some new voices, new forces—yes, yes, is this what you think is more hopeful? Yes. Because it felt like before, uh, like you were fighting alone. Uh, because sometimes, like that time in 2017, you suddenly rushed to the front, uh, but it seems like other people, do you feel they didn't keep up in this regard? It's not that, it's not that, it's not that. Actually, I don't advocate for this, because why? Just like in 2017, we learned in advance that no matter how we blocked the cars, they wouldn't stop. And why did my son and I desperately rush forward, even risking our lives? It's because, first, they took my family as hostages; second, it's really because our property has been seized for so many years, and even our governors and provincial party secretaries have been replaced four or five times, yet they don't solve this problem. So, regarding this so-called rule of law in China, I really think it's a scam.

If you are seeking compensation now, regarding the land acquisition issue from over twenty years ago, how much do you want to claim in total? Is there a specific amount? Now I have no requirements at all. Whatever they give is fine. Whatever they give is fine, as long as they release my family, whatever they give is fine; I don't ask for anything. If you follow the laws and regulations, I wouldn't even ask for anything, because I have too much of a luxury expectation; this requirement is too much of a luxury. So now, it's like you seized my property, you harmed me, and now you have released my family, don't harm them anymore. Come to the U.S., we will live a normal life, and the family can be reunited; that's what I'm hoping for. You say I haven't even gotten my property back, and as a result, I've implicated two more relatives. Really, there probably aren't many such cases in the whole world, yet it can happen in China, this 'rule of law' country. Yes, yes, I understand. Yes, yes.

So, this afternoon we know, uh, Xi Jinping and Trump are going to drive all the way from Andrews Air Force Base to DC. Do you have any moves planned along the way? Um, I don't really know the specific plans right now. Huh? We're just taking it one step at a time. Oh. Because I really can't disclose these specific details here, as U.S. security and the Chinese state security (MSS) might be monitoring me right now. Um, uh, because I intercepted Xi Jinping's motorcade twice, in 2015 and 2017, uh, in their eyes, I might be considered a security risk, an unsafe person. Right, right, I know. Uh, Ms. Ma, actually, we've always really wanted to capture him on the scene, but because he is very careful in this regard and keeps things very confidential, we might have to wait until this afternoon to know, uh, where exactly things will happen. Um, for these three days, I will send you some reports after each day's progress, uh, meaning what I did today, even if it wasn't successful, I'll tell you it wasn't successful. It might happen in an instant, in a few minutes or a few seconds, and maybe I'll succeed. Um, my goal is to intercept the carriage and cry out for justice. Alright, because.