On December 18, 2010, Ai Weiwei was interviewed by the documentary program of Sunny TV, talking about Yang Jia as he knew him: he liked blogging, mountain climbing, and spending time with people he liked — not a reclusive person, but a person who made choices. He said Yang Jia went this far to defend the dignity of life; when most people swallow down filthy things, Yang Jia said, I won't swallow this.