U.S. Scholar Kai Li 'Wrongfully Detained', Wife Campaigns for Rescue: 'We Are Waiting for You to Come Home'

美国之音采访了被中国政府非法拘押的美国学者敏辛的妻子。她谈到了敏辛赴华被扣的经过、美国国务院将其认定为“被错误拘押”的进展，以及她带着女儿在华盛顿国会听证会上的呼吁，表达了全家盼望他早日平安回家的愿望。

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Welcome to VOA, Sylvia. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us. I know you make all the way from Chiang Mai, right? So could you please tell us what you have done and what you plan to do to help Mingxin during your stay in D.C.? Well, my main job is to advocate for his behalf. So I've done a congressional hearing yesterday and then I will just be doing more interviews and getting his case, you know, more public and until I leave.

So, yesterday, on the congressional hearing, you made the direct plea to President Trump. If you ever got a chance to talk to him, what would you say to him? I just want to say thank you for the wrongful determination so far, but unfortunately, the work is not done until my husband is at home,所以我希望他能处理他在最后面的设计等他回家。

我们知道，the State Department just formally designated 明星是在中国的决定. 你第一次回当你听到新闻的新闻. I've known from the beginning that it was wrongfully detained. He's not doing anything that he's not supposed to. He's a researcher, he is an academic. He went to China because he was invited to go. He had proper visas, everything is above board. So I already knew it was wrongfully detained, for the U.S. government to recognize that and to have that formal determination that's really helpful for me and my daughter.

at the end of August I did an interview with Min Xin's brother Aung Mao Xin and he told me that on August 12th the U.S. officers got a chance to visit Min Xin and talk to him briefly for like 15 minutes. So since then is there any like new developments on his case? The counselors have a next visit on September 15th, so that's going to be the 4th visit. And he is in good spirits, he is worried about us, me and my daughter, and he is trying to exercise, he's trying to keep healthy, and he can't wait to come home.

I heard he is like detained by himself. Aung Mao Xin told me that he's very strong. So what's your biggest concern for him? Physical health. I just want him to come home strong and not have any health issues.

Okay, so let's talk about some June 3rd situation. So he left for airport. Did you take him to the airport? I did not. He went himself. 你跟他说 anything to him or did he say anything to you before? That was he concerned about the trip? It was a very routine trip, you know, he was invited everywhere, you know, he goes on these trips all the time. I don't even know that I came home to say goodbye to him. I think I just left with my daughter to drop her off at school. I just went on with my day, you know, so there was nothing significant or that stood out about this trip.

So when he landed he sent you and also texted his co-worker. Yes, and also yeah. And so you think everything is okay, right? Yeah. And when did you realize that he went missing? 那晚他不在满了六个小时, 他的公司也叫我, 他们说你听到他? 我们两个人听到, 我们在车里, 在车里的车里, 你认为我们可以认为去看他那里, 也认为他也认为他联系, 它已经是9月3日. 所以我们知道他不在乘客, 我们知道他已经在乘客的旅程了, 所以我们知道事情是错的.

然后6月4日, 我把我的女儿送在学校, 其实我会在学校的学习, and I called the U.S. consulate in Chiang Mai and in Guangzhou. There was no formal notification yet at that time, but the formal notification came on June 5th.

During this three months it must be very hard on you and on your daughter. Is there any like particular moment like you feel like very difficult, but you still have to hang on and still have to fight? I think the tide has turned. I think my focus kind of shifted on, okay, it could be a long term, and what are we going to do, and what am I going to do? I think I'm doing here is what I need to do. I need to speak on his behalf, I need to advocate for him, and until he comes home.

所以可不可以跟我们说说明星的工作? 因为中国政府拘捕他在拘捕, 对你合作吗? 没有, 他是一个研究, 他是一个研究, 他的研究, 他的研究研究, 是关于研究的资料, 研考研究, 它是全部公开的. 他们放在网站上的网站, and it's accessible publicly by anybody, so he's not doing anything that is not supposed to, there's nothing behind the scene for him, it's very transparent. Did he talk to you about his work?

only husband and wife work, I mean, what we would talk about, what meetings he did, but nothing in detail. 昨天我做了一天的研究和 Professor Andrew Nathan, 他是一位大学的研究科学, 他决定了一篇研究, 成为 Scholars-at-Risk, 邀请中国政府阻止民心。我跟他说他说, 我们不知道为什么中国政府阻止民心。One theory is that they did so at the request of the Myanmar government. Because Mian camino has been as effective critics of that regime. Do you think that wuyet be the reason? I am not the right person for that, I don't know anything about politics or policies, or what each government, you know, the Burmese government's relationship with the Chinese government, I don't know anything about that, I'm a stay-at-home mom, 所以不会知道那些问题。明星的弟弟说明星很喜欢所有的机会去讨论和中国的朋友, 因为他相信更多他们谈论这件事, 更多他们能解决这件事。你知不知道这件事吗, 他的工作, 有关关于 Burma的问题, 他在14年的时候,他在14年他在14年他在14年他在14年他在15年他在20年他在14年, 他的兴趣在中国是因为他在中国是一个强烈镬的朋友, 他是在马上的兴趣, 他是在的兴趣, 所以他在西方商量去中国,就要讲和其他学家, 他在一些宴会上次访, 因为他相信他在到这个过程中, 他相信这就是我们的走向, 他在2018年他有10年历史上的历史上, 2018年,2017年,something like that, OK, and it's a 10年历史上的历史上, Yes.

How many times have he visited China since then? I know he went right after he got the visa, so maybe like 2017, 2018, and then after that, because of COVID, maybe he hasn't gone in a while, but he went uh in october of 2025 to shanghai that was the last time before this one and so several times yeah, but every time it's like he came back safely right, yes. So you don't really think about like this trip, not at all, not at all, so you don't uh you don't really you didn't really concerned like every time when he goes to china, oh no, he's a very safe person, you know, so I trust他在家里面的认识, 我相信他在家里面做了所有的事, 做了所有的事, 确实他在家里面做了安全, 他在家里面做了安全, 所以我没有想到他, 他在家里面做了一些事情, 所以我们没有想到他, 他在家里面做了很危险的事情, 所以你没有说到他, 他在3月份上.

How do you talk to him, to your daughter? I gave her all the facts. She's 14 so she's not a little kid anymore, so I can share like some of the facts with her, and she knows what's what's going on, and she's here in DC with me, and she was at the hearing yesterday. Yeah, I saw you post the card on the museum's birthday September 9th, I know every year you will celebrate the birthday together right and this year is like celebration without him so how did you celebrate for him this year? I went to the monastery earlier that day because we are Buddhists and we went to the monastery offering some food on his behalf. I actually get to go home to pack because I was flying out that day, I flew out that evening actually to come here so i picked her i picked up my daughter from school, we had a little cupcake for him and she ate it and then we we went to the airport. Okay, that's great, yeah, i saw the picture of the cupcake, yeah, so I learned from a report back in the 2009 and saying that sue's name is from um angsen shuchi is that correct, yeah, she's named她在她的工作室, 她曾经在一起工作室很深刻1988年, 她曾经在高中学生, 她曾经在一起工作室, 她曾经在一起工作室, 她知道她被捕捉了中国政府, 我不确定她知道, 我没有接触她.

I would like to talk about some of your personal story, I know that you met Missy when he was in Berkeley, Could you please share with us how you get to know each other and fell into love and eventually got married? I met him through a mutual friend of my mom, and he was actually telling me a story or telling us the story about um behind the scenes he was a journalist at erwoody at that time erwoody magazine and he was doing a um interview for one of his stories and i think that really fascinated me, uh but what what kind of the story is that do you你还记得吗? 是的, 它是他的故事, 上人附近的运动, 从 Burma到泰国的台湾, 他只是告诉我他在做的研究和研究研究研究研究, 所以, 什么是他人的性格你最多的, 他会厉害我说这个, 但我认为他非常有趣。I think that's what attracted me to him the most he can you know he he had I guess a hard life so far you know with with fleeing Burma but throughout all of his life he kept his humor, and I think that's what's attractive for me. So we know that he made a history in UC Berkeley's他认识的普遍的学习 login法, 就是停止学习课, 我认识了,他说他必须找到其他语语的语言, 哦,我的,你懂,所以从那里,到那里,我认识了,我认识了,我认识了,他认识了,所以他self-studied英语是的。

如何是 Sue做的?是她好吗?啊, yes. I, you know, overall she's okay, I'm trying to keep her life as normal as possible, and she has to leave her school to come on this trip with me, you know, and so she's she's missing that over there, she has her band is supposed to perform in early October, so she wants to practice, you know, her她的舞台是一般的女孩。所以我们去找她的设计, 但是她是一般的14年女孩。对于这三个月的过程, 你觉得你的生活是有什么? 当然,我们是三个家人。和我们的狼是四个家人。所以当一个人离开, It is very noticeable, right, and he is the dedicated talker of the family, you know. So, he comes home and he's you know telling me about his day, telling me what's going while going on, you know. So, all of that is very quiet these days. So, yes, of course, it is very noticeable. So, if you ever haven't talked to him for three months, so, what would you most like to tell him now. 我们爱他,我们等待他在家。谢谢你来到V A来聊天谢谢你来, 谢谢你谢谢, 谢谢。