Is Being Targeted by the CCP Just the Beginning for Akio Yaita? CCP Transnational Repression Reaches the U.S.! Washington D.C. Residents: If You Dare Touch Taiwan, We Will Respond Forcefully!

The program interviewed several people on the streets of Washington, D.C., to discuss whether the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) might use its newly passed Law on Promoting Ethnic Unity and Progress to pursue overseas critics, as well as the issues of secret Chinese police stations and transnational repression. The interviewees generally believed that U.S. law is not subject to Chinese domestic law, opposed China's pursuit of dissidents in the U.S., and expressed their support for Taiwan.

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The U.S. will definitely stand with you, and don't worry, because I can foresee that if something really happens to Taiwan, the U.S. will definitely respond strongly.

I have many Taiwanese friends, and some of my family members are Taiwanese, so I want to say, welcome to the free world, and I hope you can always remain free. If Taiwan is oppressed, we will support Taiwan.

I feel that China is behind many things, you know, manipulating the world from behind the scenes, and I oppose this.

News is best served hard-hitting. I am your host, Stan, and welcome to the show. We are currently in the U.S. capital, Washington, D.C., where there are many events related to U.S. Independence Day.

Recently, the CCP passed and began implementing the "Law on Promoting Ethnic Unity and Progress." This law directly allows the CCP to carry out transnational repression overseas, providing a legal basis for its actions abroad. Many people have been harassed overseas; in Taiwan, Yaita Akio, a very well-known scholar and journalist, has also been attacked.

Today, I am here in the U.S. to ask people in Washington—since there are friends from all over the U.S. here—how they would view it if a government, especially one that is very unfriendly and hostile toward the U.S., were to implement its own domestic laws in the U.S. to carry out transnational repression? Do they have any advice for Taiwan? Let's get started.

Thank you for being willing to participate in today's program. I have a question: if a foreign country wanted to enforce their laws, their domestic laws, what would happen?

Well, yes, that would be oppression, or an attempt at oppression. And you know that China has now passed the Ethnic Unity Law? And according to this law, any foreign entity that criticizes the CCP could be held accountable by the Chinese government? What do you think about this?

Right. Well, obviously that would be a very aggressive, very direct attitude.

Then what do you think the U.S. should do to stop China from acting this way?

Right, I mean, you know, I think we will try to maintain relations with both sides, but you would still hope, you know, if Taiwan is oppressed, we will support Taiwan.

You just mentioned Taiwan. What do you think of Taiwan? How much do you know about Taiwan?

I only know that the other side of the revolution ended up there, and I have actually done business in Taiwan and have some business dealings, so I have a very good impression of it. The people seem very friendly.

Have you been there?

No, I haven't.

Oh, you should go see it. It's very beautiful, the mountains, the sea, it's truly charming.

If you have the chance to go, is there anything you would like to say to the people of Taiwan?

Yes. I want to send my best wishes. I think we are your friends. So, thank you. Happy Independence Day.

Thank you, sir.

First of all, thank you very much for being willing to participate in my program, and happy Independence Day to you. Happy Independence Day to you.

I have a question: what do you think if a foreign country tries to enforce their domestic laws here in the U.S.?

I think they would fail, because our U.S. laws govern us, not others. So if they want to do that, they will fail. That is how I see it.

Thank you very much. But there is a question: China has just passed a National Unity Law, and under this law, any foreign entity that criticizes the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) could be held accountable by their government. Furthermore, they have some secret police stations here in the United States, and they are still hunting down dissidents here. What do you think about this?

I think it is illegal to hunt down dissidents in our country, and they will be held accountable for it.

Is there anything you would like to say to the people of Taiwan, to my Taiwanese audience?

Oh, of course. I have many Taiwanese friends, and some of my family members are Taiwanese, so I say hello to you all. Welcome to the free world, and I hope you always remain free.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Thank you very much for being willing to participate in my show. I have a question: if a country, a foreign power, wants to enforce their laws, to bring their totalitarian laws to the United States, what do you think?

They have no qualification, because this is not their country, so they should only do what they are supposed to do in their own country, it's that simple.

Because now China has passed their National Unity Law, and under this law, if any foreign power criticizes China, they could be held accountable according to Chinese law, even if they are overseas.

And there is also news about secret police outposts right here in the United States. They are tracking their own dissidents, and even ethnic minorities who are already U.S. citizens. What do you think about this?

I think the U.S. government should intervene and clear all of that out, because this is not China, this is the United States. So China has no say in anything that happens in the United States, and they have no right to persecute any Americans, or anyone in this country who opposes them.

Because they need to know that the way they govern their country is wrong, and communism does not work, so they just have to accept the consequences. They need to do what they are supposed to do.

Thank you. That is a great answer, Happy Independence Day. May God bless America. I don't know what I'm saying, but we are all fine. You are doing great. Thank you.

First of all, thank you very much for agreeing to participate in my show, and also, Happy Independence Day.

Yes, sir. Thank you.

What do you think if a foreign country, and a very unfriendly one at that, wants to enforce their laws in the United States?

I think that would be a terrible thing. I believe the United States is built on freedom of speech and the independence of the states, and I think we should just do things our own way.

China has just passed their National Unity Law, and under this law, if you are considered to be opposing national unity in China—which is for China to decide—they can hold you accountable according to Chinese law. What is your take on this? And what do you think the United States should do?

Well. President Reagan once said that you can come from anywhere and become an American, and I believe that if you are an American, you should be bound by U.S. law.

If China can provide you with resources to make you happy, you will stay there. If they can do that, you can leave and become an American, and you can be protected by the United States.

Yeah, many ethnic Chinese have succeeded here in the United States, but unfortunately, China is targeting them. That is the most terrifying part of this law.

Yes, sir.

One last question, is there anything you would like to say to the people of Taiwan? Because most of my audience are Taiwanese, and you should also know that China is threatening Taiwan?

I think the United States is a great place. If you are threatened by any country in the world, as long as you are here legally and doing the right thing, you can always come here, and we are the best country in the world.

Oh, I agree. May God bless America. Thank you, sir. Have a wonderful day.

I don't think the people of that country would agree with that statement. They wouldn't want others to do that, because that is their home. They have their own way of life, yet another country is threatening them. They would see that as an existential threat.

Do you know that China recently passed a law? Under this law, they can track people in the United States, Canada, Australia, anywhere in the world, as long as they oppose the People's Republic of China, the Communist Party, and national unity?

For example, many Chinese-Americans escaped from China, and they are now U.S. citizens. Under this law, the Chinese government can go after them. What do you think about this?

I think it's terrible. I think China is involved behind many things, manipulating the whole world from behind the scenes, and I am completely against it.

I actually think this whole Iran thing—I believe China has actually been planning to invade Taiwan, because they have been stepping up their military drills and exercises. Trump really needs to do something about Iran so they can cut off their crude oil, and the same goes for Venezuela.

There is a pattern here. China is a growing threat. Honestly, seeing what they are doing, I am not surprised at all, because the list of things they do is long, too long.

These things are gradually becoming a threat to global democracy. I mean, they have no democracy at all. They rank very low on the global democracy index, similar to North Korea and Myanmar. They are not a free society.

I really can't stand this. I really can't. I like the Chinese people, but I completely disagree with the Chinese government, and I have been to China. But the Chinese people have no right to speak, they cannot vote, yet Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party are in power, unfortunately.

And most of my viewers are from Taiwan, so you know, given the threat from the Chinese Communist Party, is there anything you'd like to say to the people of Taiwan?

Really just keep fighting. You have your own country, you have sovereignty, just like America fought for its sovereignty in 1775, 1776.

You've got to do your best to make sure the Chinese Communist Party doesn't try to take over your country, because once they do, it poses a huge threat to the entire Pacific region.

And they only ever want one thing: first Nepal, then Hong Kong, and now Taiwan, and they even say it's written in their constitution.

Well, when the Kuomintang or whatever, when they fled here, was it in the 1940s? I remember it was the 1950s, they wanted to be their own country.

Indeed they did, and rightfully so. And the Chinese Communist Party really drives me crazy. So, keep fighting.

Yeah, communism doesn't work. Exactly. Yeah.

So honestly, I think they just need to keep fighting. And you know, I really think the rest of the world will help. Truly, I believe that, because they are like the next Soviet Union.

They are the next major threat to freedom and the West, in every aspect, and a lot of people don't see that. So I hope everyone wakes up.

Yeah, I know I'm awake. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

First of all, thank you, sir, for coming on my show, and Happy Independence Day.

Yes, sir. Happy Independence Day.

What do you think if a country wants to enforce its domestic laws right here? In America?

I wouldn't agree with that. Yeah, I wouldn't agree with that.

You know the Chinese Communist Party is trying to do that right now? They just passed a national unity law. Under this law, if you oppose the Chinese Communist Party's national unity—and the Chinese Communist Party decides whether you oppose it—they can prosecute you. They can come after you under Chinese Communist Party law. What do you think about that?

Because there are many Chinese dissidents who are American citizens and are currently being threatened by this law right here inside the United States.

Yeah, no, I mean, that just seems like common sense. As an American, I wouldn't want that. That's the Chinese Communist Party's own problem.

If they are here and they entered illegally, well, that's our problem too.

Right, they are American citizens. Yeah, so we can handle it.

Good. Last question, since my viewers are mostly from Taiwan, and you also know the Chinese Communist Party is threatening Taiwan, is there anything you want to say to the people of Taiwan?

Not really.

Not really?

Not really.

Well, then I wish them all the best.

Yeah. Great, awesome. Fantastic. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

First of all, sir, Happy Independence Day, and thank you so much for coming on my show.

Yeah. You know the Chinese Communist Party recently passed a law under which they can go after people all over the world, including in this country, and there are many American citizens who came from the Chinese Communist Party and escaped communism. What do you think of this law?

So what do you think the U.S. government should do?

So they are explicitly saying that another government, a foreign government, can come to the U.S. and grab an American citizen?

Well, the text says the Chinese Communist Party government can hold any foreign entity or foreign individual accountable as long as they are deemed to be opposing Chinese Communist Party national unity. So basically they are saying no matter where you are, we can come for you.

How are they going to come for me? There are secret police stations inside the United States, they kidnap people, they issue death threats, they target people, they stalk people, they harass people.

The Chinese Communist Party actually has different ways to carry out transnational, extraterritorial repression.

So that's Chinese Communist Party law, not international law, right?

Yes, that's Chinese Communist Party law. So it only works in the Chinese Communist Party territory, not anywhere else. It cannot be enforced in other regions.

But if they snatch people and bring them back to the Chinese Communist Party's territory, or for example if you are in the Chinese Communist Party's territory during a layover, they can just grab you. They kidnapped two Canadians just a few years ago.

I mean, the Chinese Communist Party can make and pass any laws as long as they feel it suits their purpose, or is good for the country, or helps the future.

I have no problem with that, but I mean, if the Chinese Communist Party has a problem with what I say or do, they can come and talk to me face to face.

I certainly don't have those laws, those laws don't apply to me, so it doesn't matter. Your attitude is basically come and get me if you can.

If they want to come, I'm right here.

Let me ask one last question, because my viewers are mostly from Taiwan, and you know Taiwan and the Chinese Communist Party has always wanted to take it back, right? Do you have anything to say to the people of Taiwan?

If you want to hold onto it, you've got to fight for it yourself.

Yes, absolutely.

Recently the Chinese Communist Party passed a law under which they can go after any foreigner or foreign entity as long as they think the other party is opposing Chinese Communist Party national reunification. What do you think about this?

I think it's kind of crazy, especially if they are going to cross borders and come to places like the United States. I think this kind of thing cannot be tolerated, to some extent.

It depends on how things turn out later. This is the first time I've heard about this, so I hope to understand it better. But if that's really the case, I wouldn't call it great.

But if it really happened, I would like to see what the reaction would be, like towards Americans, or like people who came here and have now become American citizens.

Recently, many illegal Chinese police stations have appeared in the United States, and they have even issued death threats and harassed dissidents. So they are actually trying to enforce their rules and laws while already in this country.

Do you think the U.S. government should do something about the transnational repression coming from China?

I think, of course, they absolutely should. I wish I knew a little more about this issue, specifically about what exactly they are doing. But if that is the case, some kind of intervention is needed.

Okay, you can search for two things: the ethnic unity law recently passed by China, and China's secret police stations. You will find many reports, like Reuters, the Associated Press, Fox News, like all mainstream media, non-mainstream media, like The Epoch Times, The Daily Wire, everyone has reported on this.

One last question, because most of my audience are Taiwanese, is there anything you would like to say to the people of Taiwan? Because they are facing a direct threat from China?

I would say that the United States will definitely stand with you, and don't worry, because I can foresee that if something really happens to Taiwan, the United States will definitely respond strongly.

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

First of all, thank you. Thank you very much for agreeing to come on my show, and happy Independence Day.

Thank you. Happy birthday, America.

Recently, China passed a law under which they can hold any foreign entity, any company, any entity, any person accountable if they believe that person is opposing China's ethnic unity.

There are many Chinese dissidents who are American citizens, and they don't feel safe, so I want to ask, what do Americans think?

I mean, just on paper, it sounds a bit scary. I think many Americans lack understanding, especially in a country where you wouldn't, you wouldn't expect oppression to come from there.

Like, I know that China has indeed, the Chinese people have indeed experienced a lot.

Yes. Because of China's, and other political, political issues, like the Uyghurs, the Tibetans.

And most of my audience are Taiwanese, is there anything I want to say to the people of Taiwan, in the Taiwanese environment? Do you know about Taiwan?

Honestly, not much. I know it's a beautiful place.

That's right. And if you have a mobile phone, there is a microchip from Taiwan inside it. They produce all these hybrid microchips, which the automotive industry needs. Your computer also has microchips from Taiwan, and the same goes for the military.

They are a very important ally of the United States.

Um, yes. Thank you. Okay.

Democratic country, they are very pro-American, they support the United States, they are good people. There are one million Taiwanese Americans, and they are very patriotic.

Thank you everyone. Thank you. Have a great day.

Okay. So first of all, thank you very much for agreeing to participate in my show, and happy Independence Day to you.

Of course. Yes. Um, happy Independence Day to you too.

If there is a foreign country, and not a friendly one, trying to enforce their laws and regulations here in the United States, what do you think?

Regardless of whether that country is friendly or not, I would say, your own laws govern your own country. Within our jurisdiction, we can enforce our own laws.

That sounds reasonable. That's why there are different countries.

And now China has passed the ethnic unity law. According to Article 63 of this law, any foreign entity, legal person, or natural person, if, if they violate the so-called ethnic unity law—there are many Chinese dissidents in this country who are American citizens, and they feel that this government is threatening them. What is your view? What do you think the U.S. government should do?

I mean, from my perspective, if another country can enforce its laws here, it really confuses me. I'm curious, what exactly does this law prohibit Chinese citizens from doing?

Oh, for example, like watching 'Seven Years in Tibet'. Okay. Say they support Tibetan independence, support Taiwan, or they disagree with Uyghur people being locked in concentration camps. Okay. And they believe China has human rights issues.

So it sounds like, if a Chinese citizen is here, and they are reading, watching, or talking about anything that is not pro-China, they will get into trouble for it?

Not necessarily just Chinese citizens. Okay. Any citizen?

Yes. Polish citizens, American citizens as well?

There are many former Chinese citizens who are now American citizens, and they are also being attacked, because any foreign entity, whether physical or legal, can be held accountable and investigated under this law.

To me, this doesn't sound good. I don't know. If someone supports this, I would be very curious why. Unless they are Communists, right? Or unless they are Chinese.

But if it's just someone—if it's just another American saying this sounds like a good idea, I would want to hear why they say that. Because I can't think of any reason why this would be a good idea.

I think no one would think this is a good idea except for the Chinese Communist Party.

Yes, yes.

One last question, because most of our audience are Taiwanese, and there are many Taiwanese Americans watching this channel too. Is there anything you would like to say to the people of Taiwan?

I want to say that freedom is worth living for. It is worth fighting for. It is worth standing up for what you believe in, without fear of what might happen to you.

Because someone has to do the right thing, and even if you don't see the results in your own lifetime, it will inspire others to follow.

Thank you, sir. Yes, thank you.